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Clipmarks | Vietnam ClipsDr.MartinLutherKing: A Time to Break Silence. Swap Iraq for Vietnam.clipped by: righthandclippers remarks: "In the North, where our bombs now pummel the land, and our mines endanger the waterways, we are met by a deep but understandable mistrust. In Hanoi are the men who led the nation to independence against the Japanese and the French, the men who sought membership in the French commonwealth and were betrayed by the weakness of Paris and the willfulness of the colonial armies. It was they who led a second struggle against French domination at tremendous costs, and then were persuaded at Geneva to give up, as a temporary measure, the land they controlled between the 13th and 17th parallels. "After 1954 they watched us conspire with Diem to prevent elections which would have surely brought Ho Chi Minh to power over a united Vietnam, and they realized they had been betrayed again. "When we ask why they do not leap to negotiate, these things must be remembered. Also, it must be clear that the leaders of Hanoi considered the presence of American troops in support of the Diem regime to h Beyond Vietnam: A Time to Break Silence Declaration of Independence from the War in Vietnam | Delivered by Dr. Martin Luther King Jr April 1967 My third reason grows out of my experience in the ghettos of the North As I have walked among the desperate, rejected and angry young men, I have told them that Molotov cocktails and rifles would not solve their problems they asked, what about Vietnam? They asked if our own nation wasnt using massive doses of violence to solve its problems, to bring about the changes it wanted I knew that I could never again raise my voice against the violence of the oppressed in the ghettos without having first spoken clearly to the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today, my own government no one who has any concern for the integrity and life of America today can ignore the present war If Americas soul becomes totally poisoned, part of the autopsy must read "Vietnam. It can never be saved so long as it destroys the deepest hopes of men the world over.  zum Artikel...
Vietnam: 40 yearsago: Iraq: 40 years from now: Iran?clipped by: righthandclippers remarks: "Hours after Japans surrender in World War II, Vietnamese Ho Chi Minh declares the independence of Vietnam from France. The proclamation paraphrased the U.S. Declaration of Independence in declaring, "All men are born equal: the Creator has given us inviolable rights, life, liberty, and happiness!" and was cheered by an enormous crowd gathered in Hanois Ba Dinh Square" Lest you forget. There is so much Americans still cannot know of the truth of Vietnam, wiped from the history books. too painful to know the truth even now. Check who was present for the Deceleration of Independence!!! FOUR OUT OF FIVE WHO CLAIM TO BE Vietnam vets are not. As of the current Census taken during August, 2000, the surviving U.S. Vietnam Veteran population estimate is: 1,002,511. This is hard to believe, losing nearly 711,000 between 95 and 00. Thats 390 per day. During this Census count, the number of Americans falsely claiming to have served in-country is: 13,853,027. By this census, FOUR OUT OF FIVE WHO CLAIM TO BE Vietnam vets are not 2,709,918 Americans served in uniform in Vietnam Vietnam Veterans represented 9.7% of their generation. 240 men were awarded the Medal of Honor during the Vietnam War 58,148 were killed in Vietnam 75,000 were severely disabled 23,214 were 100% disabled 5,283 lost limbs 1,081 sustained multiple amputations Of those killed, 61% were younger than 21 11,465 of those killed were younger than 20 years old Of those killed, 17,539 were married Average age of men killed: 23.1 years Five men killed in Vietnam were only 16 years old. The oldest man killed was 62 zum Artikel...Watch video the Legendary of our motherland: Laosclipped by: Laoclipclippers remarks: more video available at http://samakomlao.blogspot.com [Video] zum Artikel...Für die Inhalte dieses Feeds ist alleine der jeweilige Autor/Anbieter verantwortlich. Die Inhalte stellen nicht die Meinung von EasyRSS dar. Dies ist eine automatisch generierte E-Mail. Bitte antworten Sie nicht auf diese E-Mail. Wenn Sie Feedback an EasyRSS senden wollen, nutzen Sie bitte das Feedback Forumlar. Wenn Sie sich von EasyRSS abmelden wollen, gehen Sie bitte auf den Menüpunkt "Meine Daten". Ihr EasyRSS Team http://www.easyrss.de | |||||
2007/09/30
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Clipmarks | Vietnam ClipsDeath toll in southern Vietnam bridge collapse rises to 52clipped by: merrieclippers remarks: Rescue teams were digging through the rubble in search of survivors, said Le Viet Hung, vice chief of the Can Tho police.   A bridge under construction in southern Vietnam collapsed Wednesday, killing at least 52 workers and injuring 97 others, officials said. The Japanese-funded bridge was being built across the Hau River, a branch of the Mekong River, in the southern city of Can Tho. It is part of a heavily traveled route that links the Mekong Delta and Ho Chi Minh City. At least 52 people were dead and 97 others were injured, said Le Van Ut, the vice chief of police in Vinh Long Province. The exact number of missing was unknown, but officials said at least 200 people were working on the 100-meter bridge section when it buckled at about 8 a.m. Officials were still investigating the cause of the accident. Cement had been poured into the collapsed section just one day earlier, on Tuesday. Construction of the span, which was not open to traffic, was being overseen by Japanese companies Taisei Corp., Kajima Corp., Nippon Steel Corp. and Nippon Koei-Chodai. zum Artikel...
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2007/09/24
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Clipmarks | Vietnam ClipsA Time To Break Silenceclipped by: thisnamecantbetakenclippers remarks: "Americas soul. .... can never be saved so long as it destroys the deepest hopes of men the world over." - Martin Luther King. A different war, a different time, but MLKs words still ring true. "A time to break silence" "A time comes when silence is betrayal." That time has come The truth of these words is beyond doubt, but the mission to which they call us is a most difficult one. Even when pressed by the demands of inner truth, men do not easily assume the task of opposing their governments policy, especially in time of war. We must speak with all the humility that is appropriate to our limited vision, but we must speak I could not be silent in the face of such cruel manipulation For the sake of those boys, for the sake of this government, for the sake of the hundreds of thousands trembling under our violence, I cannot be silent. This I believe all of us who deem ourselves bound by allegiances and loyalties which are broader and deeper than nationalism are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy, for no document from human hands can make these humans any less our brothers. zum Artikel...
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Clipmarks | Vietnam ClipsThe Battle of Dien Bien Phuclipped by: ratilfar[Video] zum Artikel...
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Clipmarks | Vietnam ClipsVietnam Veterans Memorial Defacedclipped by: ColoradoRightclippers remarks: Just what does it say about our country when our veterans have to come out to protect the memorials that all our people have erected to honor the service of all our veterans? Something that is not good. Last Friday a ?light, oily substance? was sprayed on 50 to 60 feet of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial wall panels and paving stones in an act of apparent vandalism Some veterans groups are planning to parallel the demostrations with lines of volunteers blocking access to the Vietnam Wall and other memorials they believe may be targeted for defacment. The assumption that Friday?s discovery was an act of vandalism connected with the demonstrations seems a logical conclusion. ?Who ever did this, if they were trying to enrage the Vietnam Veterans, they did,? said Riley. ?We have been stomped on and ridiculed and spit on simply because we went when our nation called. Scruggs who is also founder and president of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund said that there is a belief that the recent vandalism was motivated by " MoveOn.org type of people" but he hopes that no one is accusing them at this point. zum Artikel...
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Clipmarks | Vietnam ClipsDenis Johnsons New Novel: Tree of Smokeclipped by: ouyangwulongclippers remarks: There are a few tribes that hunt monkeys, but for almost anyone else, the small details of surprising humanity in monkeys makes killing one feel unsettlingly close to home. Denis Johnson starts his latest book, Tree of Smoke, with the killing of a monkey, on the day of Kennedys assassination, amidst the tension that you can feel propelling the characters like a wound up rubber band into the chaos of the Vietnam War. And it is this tension that rings in my ears, now that my generation has also known that dreadful tension - 2003 like 1914, like 1939, like 1963, when society was already set on its terrible path and it was to late to pull the behemoth of humanity of its course... He stepped carefully, thinking about snakes and trying to be quiet because he wanted to hear any boars before they charged him. He was aware that he was terrifically on edge. From all around came the ten thousand sounds of the jungle, as well as the cries of gulls and the far-off surf, and if he stopped dead and listened a minute, he could hear also the pulse snickering in the heat of his flesh, and the creak of sweat in his ears. If he stayed motionless only another couple of seconds, the bugs found him and whined around his head. Seaman Houston took the monkeys meager back under the rifles sight. He raised the barrel a few degrees and took the monkeys head into the sight. Without really thinking about anything at all, he squeezed the trigger. Seaman Houston was terrified to witness its convulsions there. With fascination, then with revulsion, he realized that the monkey was crying. Its breath came out in sobs, and tears welled out of its eyes when it blinked. zum Artikel...
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Clipmarks | Vietnam ClipsNow Bush says Iraq IS like Vietnam...clipped by: thinkingblueclippers remarks: Bush will say just about ANYTHING to keep his war going, going going. It is so obvious, he wants his despicable war to continue until the end of his incumbency, so he can dump it in someone elses lap and Im sure hes hoping that someone will be a Democrat. Then perhaps all the blame of this sad, quagmire of a war will not be associated with his name in the history books... Thats what HE THINKS! [Video] The domestic PR war over Iraq is about to begin in earnest. When the war in Iraq did not progress as quickly as the Administration had hoped, President Bush resisted comparisons with Vietnam. In 2005, he said, "I dont see the parallels." But as this discretionary war has dragged on and on, he has relented. Almost a year ago, he conceded in an interview that the escalation of violence last October might be comparable to the Tet offensive, which marked a turning point in Vietnam. Wednesday Bush is going one step further. In a speech to the VFW in Missouri, Bush will argue that Iraq is like Vietnam ... but unlike Vietnam, we shouldnt pull out because our departure wont stop the killing. [Reminder: he did not serve in Vietnam.] In other words: lets think of Iraq like a mulligan, a do-over: we caused a bloodbath by leaving Vietnam so if we dont leave Iraq, there wont be a bloodbath. Like there isnt a bloodbath already? zum Artikel...
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Clipmarks | Vietnam ClipsWhat happened when we left Vietnamclipped by: caoilfhionnclippers remarks: Telling the story of what happened to the Vietnamese when we withdraw. Which is why people are asking today, what is going to happen to the Iraqis when we leave? The faces we saw running in terror from the North Vietnamese assault were real and familiar, not simply video images. The bodies that fell like spinning snowflakes toward cruel deaths after having clung hopelessly to the outer parts of departing helicopters and aircraft may have been people we knew or tried to help. Even for those who had lost their faith in America?s ability to defeat the Communists, this was not the way it was supposed to end. How had they turned so virulently against their own countrymen? How could they stand and applaud the victory of a Communist enemy who had taken 58,000 American lives and crushed a struggling, pro-democratic ally? No one has ever mentioned the concentration camps into which a million South Vietnamese soldiers were sent; 56,000 to die, 250,000 to stay for more than six years, and some for as long as 18. No one criticized the forced relocations, the corruption, or the continuing police state. zum Artikel...
On Vietnam, losing a winnable warclipped by: caoilfhionnclippers remarks: Its something thats rarely talked about, but its important in view of the attempts to recreate the same situation in Iraq. I lay part of the blame on the fact that our politicians lost a winnable war. You are at a great disadvantage in getting the truth out of the enemy when you lose, instead of winning -- rather like being a eunuch. The American and Vietnamese military were not defeated by the NVA, but were betrayed and defeated by politicians in the United States. The POW/MIA issue is extremely important, and I only wish that more people were working on it. Not only is it important to get the fullest possible accounting for our POW/MIAs for the Vietnam War, but for the Korean War, World War II and the Cold War, but what we do or dont do now in accounting for these POWs will determine what will be done in accounting for our missing men and women in future wars. zum Artikel...Cindy confronted by Bush supporterclipped by: caoilfhionnclippers remarks: Its something that happened in Cambodia after we left Vietnam, yet the anti-war Activists who claimed they cared so much about those people never shed a tear for millions killed at the hands of the Khmer Rouge. There is every reason to believe history will repeat itself in Iraq. Then, during a visit to Montgomery, Alabama, as part of her ?Summer of Love 2007? tour, Cindy was confronted by a Bush supporter who actually asked a rather cogent question ?What happens to Iraq after we leave?? This prompted a somewhat predictable exchange wherein Sheehan answered questions with questions rather than address the likely horrific genocide that will follow a capricious American troop withdrawal ( video available here with relevant section beginning at minute 3:50, partial transcript follows): zum Artikel...Bushs Vietnam references suspectclipped by: princessrachel19the slaughter in Vietnam and Cambodia that followed our departure makes the case for why we cant leave Iraq yet. His facts are right about the slaughter, but his lesson is suspect. Its not just that using a single aspect of the tortured Vietnam record to make a contemporary case is a shaky proposition. Its that were making the same mistake in Iraq that LBJ made in Vietnam - were doing for Iraqis what they wont do for themselves. Those damning findings were mitigated only by one conclusion that supported Bush. The report predicted that, if American forces stop policing the civil war in Baghdad to focus on training Iraqis and fighting Al Qaeda, the move "would erode security gains achieved thus far." last January, Bush said it was necessary to give the Iraqi government "breathing room" to forge political reconciliation and get its police and army in fighting shape. Eight months later, its not working, and it wont as long as were doing for Iraqis what they should be doing zum Artikel...Für die Inhalte dieses Feeds ist alleine der jeweilige Autor/Anbieter verantwortlich. Die Inhalte stellen nicht die Meinung von EasyRSS dar. Dies ist eine automatisch generierte E-Mail. Bitte antworten Sie nicht auf diese E-Mail. Wenn Sie Feedback an EasyRSS senden wollen, nutzen Sie bitte das Feedback Forumlar. Wenn Sie sich von EasyRSS abmelden wollen, gehen Sie bitte auf den Menüpunkt "Meine Daten". Ihr EasyRSS Team http://www.easyrss.de | | |||
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Clipmarks | Vietnam ClipsThe real lesson of Vietnamclipped by: masburyclippers remarks: Quote from historian Gareth Porter on what we should have learned Richard Nixon used the threat of a bloodbath in Vietnam as the primary argument for continuing that war for four more years after he came to power in 1969. Had Nixon listened to the antiwar movement and the American people by 1969 and ended that war, there would not have been the overthrow of Norodom Sihanouk in 1970. There would not have been the extension of the war into Cambodia. There would not have been the rise of the Khmer Rouge. When Sihanouk was overthrown, we tend to forget that the Khmer Rouge was really an insignificant movement. They were about 2,500 or 3,000 very poorly armed soldiers or guerillas. And it was really the extension of the Vietnam War into Cambodia which made the Khmer Rouge the powerful movement that they were. the lesson of Vietnam that we should be hearing, which we should have heard for the last three decades, but we haven?t, is that government officials in the White House simply do not pay attention to the real consequences of the wars that they wage. zum Artikel...
The Left Shuddersclipped by: jatflaclippers remarks: This is how *some* Americans view our years in Vietnam and what followed. History is, indeed, repeating itself to our peril and those who trust us. Read the entire letter from the Prime Minister; its heartbreaking.  The Left Shudders the left loves to wallow in Vietnam. But only in their "Vietnam." Not in the Vietnam war of 1963-68, the disastrous years where policy was shaped by the best and brightest of American liberalism. Not in the Vietnam of early 1975, when the Democratic Congress insisted on cutting off assistance to our allies in South Vietnam and Cambodia, in Phnom Penh former Cambodian prime minister Sirik Matak wrote to John Gunther Dean, I thank you very sincerely for your letter and for your offer to transport me towards freedom. I cannot, alas, leave in such a cowardly fashion. As for you, and in particular for your great country, I never believed for a moment that you would have this sentiment of abandoning a people which has chosen liberty. You have refused us your protection, and we can do nothing about it. The Khmer Rouge took Phnom Penh a few days later. Sirik Matak was executed: Between 1 and 2 million Cambodians were murdered by the Khmer Rouge in the next three years zum Artikel...Für die Inhalte dieses Feeds ist alleine der jeweilige Autor/Anbieter verantwortlich. Die Inhalte stellen nicht die Meinung von EasyRSS dar. Dies ist eine automatisch generierte E-Mail. Bitte antworten Sie nicht auf diese E-Mail. Wenn Sie Feedback an EasyRSS senden wollen, nutzen Sie bitte das Feedback Forumlar. Wenn Sie sich von EasyRSS abmelden wollen, gehen Sie bitte auf den Menüpunkt "Meine Daten". Ihr EasyRSS Team http://www.easyrss.de | | |||
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Clipmarks | Vietnam ClipsIs Iraq the new Vietnam?clipped by: Tallulahclippers remarks: I really dont know what to say.............Im not old enough to remember Vietnam, but surely citing one atrocity in defense of another does not make it right. President Bush Cites Vietnam To Stay On Course In Iraq Wednesday, August 22, 2007 11:50:06 PM - US President George Bush has warned critics of the Iraq war that a hasty withdrawal from the strife-torn country would unleash a bloodbath that was seen in South East Asia after US forces quit Vietnam. Bushs rousing defense of his Iraq policy on Wednesday comes just a few weeks before US Ambassador to Iraq, Ryan Crocker and the US commander in Iraq, Gen. David Petraeus, are to submit a report to Congress on the success of the latest military campaign to contain the sectarian violence in Iraq, and the Iraqi governments progress in achieving political reconciliation. the president accused the Congress of planning to ?pull the rug out from under? US troops and said the US pullout from Vietnam more than 32 years ago was to blamed for millions of deaths in Cambodia and Vietnam, and for denting American credibility that haunts them to this day. zum Artikel...
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Clipmarks | Vietnam ClipsVietNam War Languageclipped by: thinkingblueclippers remarks: Of all the people who should have learned from historys past mistakes, George W Bush and his henchmen should have learned from Vietnam. The misery these warmongers have caused humanity is incomprehensible... I came across this quote... a quote of hope in these unbearable times. ?Remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS.? -- Mahatma Gandhi Escalation by the NumbersWhat "Progress" in Iraq Really MeansBy Tom Engelhardt Someday, we will undoubtedly discover that, in the term "surge" -- as in the Presidents "surge" plan (or "new way forward") announced to the nation in January -- was the urge to avoid the language (and experience) of the Vietnam era. no "body bags" (or cameras to film them as the dead came home), as there were to be no "body counts" ("We have made a conscious effort not to be a body-count team" was the way the President put it), as there were to be no "quagmires," nor the need to search for that "light at the end of the tunnel," so, surely, there were to be no "escalations." Marilyn Young noted in early April 2003 with the invasion of Iraq barely underway: less then two weeks, a 30 year old vocabulary is back: credibility gap, seek and destroy, hard to tell friend from foe, the dominance of domestic politics, winning, or more often, losing hearts and minds." zum Artikel...
Vietnam War Mythsclipped by: Matt714The Tet Offensive Was a Communist Victory Only In The Minds Of The Media Blacks Served In Disproportionate Numbers They Did Not Most Men Who Served Were Drafted Most Men Who Served (75%) Were Volunteers Draft Dodgers Protested Against The War They Protested Over The Fact They Had To Serve Drug Use Was Rampant In Vietnam Drug Use is Rampant In Berkeley, and Hollywood Fraggings Were Common In Vietnam In fact they were rare Prisoners Were Hurled From Helicopters From the archives of the Beverly Hills National Guard American Atrocities Were Widespread In fact, only two can be documented Body Counts Were Falsified If anything, we wildly underestimated NVA dead The Communists Still Hold POWs There is no credible evidence to support this belief Tags: vietnam, second indochina war, north vietnam, ho chi minh, south vietnam, tet offensive, cold war, my lai massacre, draft dodgers, communism zum Artikel...Für die Inhalte dieses Feeds ist alleine der jeweilige Autor/Anbieter verantwortlich. Die Inhalte stellen nicht die Meinung von EasyRSS dar. Dies ist eine automatisch generierte E-Mail. Bitte antworten Sie nicht auf diese E-Mail. Wenn Sie Feedback an EasyRSS senden wollen, nutzen Sie bitte das Feedback Forumlar. Wenn Sie sich von EasyRSS abmelden wollen, gehen Sie bitte auf den Menüpunkt "Meine Daten". Ihr EasyRSS Team http://www.easyrss.de | | |||
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Clipmarks | Vietnam ClipsJewish mother stops Son enlisting in occupation IDF army.clipped by: righthandclippers remarks: On the 16th of January, an Israeli soldier shot his nine year old daughter, Abir, in the head as she was leaving school to go home. The soldier will not spend an hour in jail. In Israel, soldiers are not imprisoned for killing Arabs. Never. It does not matter whether the Arabs are young or old, real or potential terrorists, peaceful demonstrators or stone throwers. The army has not conducted an inquiry in Abir Aramins death. The police and the courts have questioned no one except for Abirs sister, who was holding her hand while she was falling. The young sister was asked time and again how many meters were they from the school gate, from the kiosk, from the jeep. H ow sad it is to come to the realization that the number of those who evade service in the army of occupation is so low that there is virtually no effect on the motivation of Israel?s children to put on the uniform of brutality. Professor Stewart Cohen of Bar Ilan University consoles us by declaring that the ?blame? lies in the increase in the number of Haredis who do not serve and he informs us that the army of the United States would have been happy with such a low percentage of evaders during the Vietnam war. Maybe we would do well to learn something from the Americans of the 1960s, or even from the Haredi Jews who fear for the safety of their children. When the extent of evasion became known, I was invited onto the program of Oded Shahar, ?Politika?, as a mother who will not permit her son (now 15 years old) to join the army. I was informed over the course of a protracted campaign of persuasion, only men were invited, most of them warmongering generals like Effie Eitam and Yossi Peled zum Artikel...
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Clipmarks | Vietnam ClipsGoodbye to Abusive Uncle Sam!!!clipped by: righthandclippers remarks: Back then, young men signed up for university to defer the draft; now many young men from poor backgrounds join the military simply for the funds to go to college. Back then, Canadian Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau threw open the border, declaring that his country would be ?a refuge from militarism? from which no deserter would be returned. Now, the only way for a deserter to seek refuge is to claim asylum and wait to see if Canada decides to accept them or deport them back home. As increasing numbers of US military personnel head for Canada to escape service in Iraq and Afghanistan, three deserters explain what drove them to such drastic action US Ranger Chris Teske went AWOL  Phil McDowell has sought asylum in Canada A couple of hundred, like McDowell, have gone further, leaving their former lives to flee to Canada, seeking sanctuary from the long arm of Uncle Sam. It is a well-worn path, trodden first in the 19th century by the pioneers of the Underground Railroad, African slaves fleeing the South, aided by abolitionists who sheltered them along the way. Then, in the Sixties, thousands of young men took the same route in evading the draft for Vietnam. And now, a steady trickle of soldiers, broken on the battlefields of Iraq, is once again following suit. McDowell thought he had served his time when he returned to Rhode Island after a year in Iraq. He had always been sceptical of the claims of WMD ?I just didn?t think they?d make something that important up.? zum Artikel...
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